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I currently own a pair of HD650's and have had them for about 3-4 years. I love everything about my HD600's except for one thing: its super small soundstage. However to me they hit the sweetspot. Vielleicht kann mir ja hier jemand weiterhelfen. Yes the vocals sound a little better on the 650 but not by much. My winner was the 58x. However, he HD58X r2 remains an amazing budget choice - the budget choice with those for more modest gear. HD600 highs are crystal clear but again a little loud, can be fixed easy with -2,3dB in Eq. I bought them from someone who thought they sounded too analytical and sterile, but I found them to be very musical and had many emotional moments with them due to their transparency and pinpoint imaging. I dont find any of the models "need" amplification though, but the 58X plays well from mobile phones. Jul 23, 2019. After listening to all 3 I can say none is like the other. I am very confuse for choosing either a HD58x or a HD6xx , after so much searching on the internet I feel like it's more hard to choose which one is better tbh. The hd58x is ok for comp fps and better for music. That's why, even after falling head over heels in love with the sound of the HD650, I ordered the HD600. It took me however a couple of days to adapt from my LCD-2C. The hd58x kinda falls between the two, it has a slightly small 9-10kish peak but sounds overall more forward compared to the HD650 but not as bright as an HD599. The HD600s i had last of the 3, and i went into it with expectations of no bass just because that is what i had always heard about them, but was pleasantly surprised. The 58X sounds the best out of a phone. For Fun immersive gaming, all 3 can work but IMO none really offers that great of an immersive experience. While the bass it's clearly less than the other 2, It certainly it's not anemic, I could live with this bass amount. 0. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. You can make it via the post rules over at r/Gaming_headsets. The HD58x splits the difference, you get a slightly warm lower mid-range and a clear and not shouty upper-midrange. Exactly, I'm not really convinced about these changes. Soundstage is narrower but they have the best imaging of the 3. It also goes much lower than the other 2, aka you'll hear stuff you won't hear on the others. To call the 58x V shaped suggests a recessed midrange, which it doesn't have. Treble wise the HD650 hits just south and the HD58x hits slightly north. The 600/650 are better with a tube amp, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I'd recommend making a Lfh post and I can then help you out there. Before I start I'll say my impressions are strictly subjective and can differ from others. Press J to jump to the feed. It’s not as fun and in your face as the original HD580, but more of a sweet blend of serious and fun. Do note these are just what they excel at the most but you can use them for whatever you want to. So this is going to be a sound focused post. They have by far the best bass and if you listen to bass heavy music they're the ones to get. Realistic and still very acceptable pricing: ------------------------------------------------------. The HD58x and the HD599 are the same (sound quality-wise). When I had HD650, I couldn't hear much of a difference at all when compared to my HD600 . And even then, many … Der Kabeldurchmesser beträgt 4 mm (nach der Abzweigung 3 mm), das Kabelmaterial besteht aus einem OFC-Draht im Inneren und besteht aus einem geflochtenen verwicklungsfreien Kabel. Less grain(more micro-detail). "I heard the HD600 series pads wear out fast". If you don’t find them too tight, you’ll enjoy a slightly better sound with less bass roll-off, which adds a bit of punch to the HD 58X. You don't always want neutral when gaming, but for music in general id say its better to get to neutral then eq to what you like from there. You will enjoy music more on these. Sennheiser HD58x Jubilee vs Superlux HD651 +A-A: Autor. This is where I will be posting a bunch of tech-related and possibly other content and reviews. HD650 give a more intimate experience, the sound is full and warm. As you said highly subjective of course. I have had all 3, and bought HD650s three times, right now what I mostly use is Utopias and 650s, they are the best $200 sound you would find. BUT the modifications can turn it into a better extended and less bright HD600. A narrower and fuller, warmer sound. Do note these are just what they excel at the most but you can use them for whatever you want to. It's not worth upgrading from an HD598 to an HD599. If you like bass, DON'T get the HD600. Sennheisers HD 650 gilt heute, über 13 Jahre nach seiner Vorstellung im Jahr 2003, als moderner Klassiker. HD58x voices are ruined by the highs blending over. Ersatz-Audio-Upgrade-Kabel für Sennheiser HD650, HD600, HD580, HD660S, HD58X, Massdrop HD6XX Kopfhörer-Verlängerungskabel Der Kabeldurchmesser beträgt 4 mm (nach der Abzweigung 3 mm), das Kabelmaterial besteht aus einem OFC-Draht im Inneren und besteht aus einem geflochtenen verwicklungsfreien Kabel. Now the question of course is why should I get the HD58X r2 over the HD6xx, HD650, HD600? It's not as detailed and clear but it's for sure more in your face. HD650 vs HE-4XX vs HD58X vs Other. Location: Upstate New … Quantity: HD58x >= HD650 > HD599 (do note the hd599 has the most Low-mids but least upper-mids). For most people, the HD58x is going to sound a bit nicer as its a bit fuller in the bass. HD650 highs are ok but kinda veiled with decent resolution. If you are someone who likes a thicker heft to the entire sound signature, then this is not for you. SO technical performance isn't any better just the sound signature changes. Interesting, I will have to give the HD58X a try. Your jaw will literally vibrate after a certain volume on certain tracks. Why is that you may ask, well that's because pretty much the HD58x is an HD599 driver in an HD6xx housing. 12,641 posts; 12,641 posts; I'm into PC Cases, F@H, and drawing lines on a computer. 4.4 out of 5 stars 34 ratings. more_vert. The HD600 series (includes the HD650/HD6xx/ and the HD58x) does wear down a bit quicker, they flatten in about a year of daily use. It may work. Hi, I haven't tried them with different earpads. The HD58x is more of a headphone for someone who wants it all but only wants one headphone. Also, I think the channel matching isn't quite as exact with the HD58X. Beitrag : TwoHandArmy Neuling #1 erstellt: 04. If you're listening to bass heavy tracks, these are the cans to get. It has the best bass resolution and quantity. Tl;dr: I dont know if there are compromises in the manufacture of the Sennheiser HD6XX because its crowdsourced and potentially built to a different price point to the HD650 its based on. Replacement pads always change the sound and on the HD600 series never for the better. It's awesome. The HD650 has the clearest mid-range, the lower-mids are also the most "neutral", but some do find the upper-mids to be a tad shouty at times. Yes, the HD650 should be used on an AMP. Wiring. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, A990z| HD600 | Andromeda | Sundara | LCD-2, Amp:A90, DAC: PecanPi, Audial | HD650Mod, AD2000, SINE w/MSR7pad, HD600/HD6XX/HD58X/Momentums V1/ATH-M50S/Meze Noir/Kanas Pro, V30 | HD600 T2 Carbo Tenore | PC / Denon 3910 > DacMagic > Vali2. As for the cable, some people on a forum said using the HD650 cable on HD58x tames the treble a little. Open to all suggestions. Feel free to not use them. Länge: 200 cm. I dont understand the full story of crowdsourcing and how it applies to this headphone but ill explain what i do understand. These headphones are both excellent and will make you happy when listening to any kind of music. I do tend to get fatiqued with the HD600 though unforunately, but it is with ease the most well rounded performer of the 3. This is why Massdrop and Sennheiser collaborated together and brought you this wonderful product called the HD 58X Jubilee. HD58x are close second and I read if you remove the exterior foam they become more open. I also usually call Harman, enjoyment neutral. Interesting. If you find a way to fix the highs on these, please post it because it would make them the winner. Bass: Out of the 3, HD58x is by far the best. Link to post Share on other sites. Zu Recht, denn der offene Kopfhörer, der für den heimischen Musikgenuss entwickelt wurde, leistet sich kaum Fehler. HD600 is the clear winner here. I'm a fairly analytical guy, and not good with words, so I'll give marks and some impressions for each headphone. This is true. The HD58x has a bit more sub-bass and a bit punchier mid-bass. Do remember this is based on what I hear and I have looked at measurements to see how what I hear matches up. The battle of the German Gods: the legendary hd600 vs its descendant, the hd650/6xx! Compared to the HD600 (neutral) and the HD650 (warmer), the HD58X is a more accessible headphone that leans a bit more to the bass side of the sound spectrum. I would likely say it is the best headphone in the sub $250 range that i have ever heard. Beim HD58X ist das Gitter flächig homogen gebogen. I just did the same bought the 650 and 58x then compared. My only worry is the comments on the treble. For example I REALLY like the bass on the 58x, the highs and airiness of HD600 and the fullness of HD650. Lieferumfang: 1 x Ersatzkabel (Kopfhörer sind nicht im … At least in my opinion, of course. I want to choose like the best overall headphone (of those 2), price will not be bother me. Comparison Request. The differences between the HD 600 and HD 650 are especially subtle. Link to frequency response for those curious: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650-measurements, They're definitely more similar than different. Too bad the bass sucks. A lot of Sennheiser headphones like the HD598 Cs and the HD650 measure with lower distortion at lower volumes. The HD650 has the clearest mid-range, the lower-mids are also the most "neutral", but some do find the upper-mids to be a tad shouty at times. So all 3 perform very well if you own any of these is it worth buying another? 650 it's my favorite because of it's smoothness. I’ve had a ton of headphones and love the H6XX, but maybe I’ll like the other headphone more. They are completely different sounding headphones each with it's strengths and weaknesses. The HD6xx(same as an HD650) does perform better, mainly in the treble. I want to buy a pair of HD 599 to play in my Xbox, but in my country I can't get a ModMic, but I can get a original HD 569 cable with in line mic. Fig.5 (above) Total Harmonic Distortion (90 dBSPL @ 1 kHz), Massdrop x Sennheiser HD58X Jubilee production versus HD58X Jubilee prototype Fig.6 (above) Total Harmonic Distortion (90 dBSPL @ 1 kHz), Massdrop x Sennheiser HD58X Jubilee production versus Sennheiser HD650 All of the measurements in this post were made with brand new headphones. HD58x are v-shaped headphones, aka tuned to sound more melodic with higher highs and higher bass. Bass is better in level than the usual hD5xx series which often is a bit too ‘warm’. In general these are not the best for immersive gaming. They extend very well, and accurately which allows them to easily handle bass heavy music perfectly well. I just had to know. I'll look into seeing if I can add in the hd559, game one/pc37x, hd600 without having to completely redoing it. The HD599 images slightly worse but it has a wider soundstage that you can hear more of what's happening all around you. The hd599 is good for comp fps and music. The 600 is no enjoyment on modern music but for mixing. But if you're sensitive to treble, they will fatigue you fairly quick. All should be used on a clean source (I.E. The HD650 has the most treble detail but a darker presentation. 2 years ago. The new HD600 sounds the same but has a new color. OTOH the HD58X driver is still the new generation, 150 ohm, like the 660. But the HD58x is the closest in the bass and mids. At least to my ears. A more detailed post about that later. I have all 3. The 650 is shouty, veiled with a meaty but almost sloppy bass. It does excel at playing electronic and hip hop, and suffers against other genres compared to its 300ohm brothers and doesnt scale with gear as well. The vocal presentation is still natural and lush on the 58x just not boosted. But if you play Comp FPS, then the HD599 is best for you and you may also want an HD650 for music. The 58X excels in 1 specific way IMO, its ease to drive. HD600 are studio headphones with fairly neutral freq response. I dont necessarily agree with a lot of what you said. All 3 are different enough that they can't be used interchangeably for every use case. Imaging: HD650 > HD58x > HD599 (there all close). All pads do wear down and as that happens the sound does change. Highs have low resolution, they're loud and fairly fatiguing. No bloated nor ‘fat’ or muddy bass. The 6xx is a tiny bit brighter. On a side note: I do use TrackIR and have to attach the TrackIR Pro Clip to my headphones. Well, that depends on what your use case is. If you have an HD598 just treat it like an HD599. Press J to jump to the feed. The HD599 has a very warm lower-midrange and the upper-mids do sound a bit recessed. All 3 are rolled off in the bass region and none are bassy heavy by any means. As it depends on so many things. Continue this thread level 2. I have this question because some cables are for iPhone but I'm not sure. Dekoni Audio Replacement Ear Pads Compatible with Sennheiser HD600, HD580, HD58X, HD650, HD565, HD545, HD660s, HD6xx Headphones (Fenestrated Sheepskin) Visit the Dekoni Audio Store. HE4xx vs HD58x coming soon? The HD58x splits the difference, you get a slightly warm lower mid-range and a clear and not shouty upper-midrange. I personally will miss the marble finish of the old one, but the new grey looks more modern. The HD599 does not need an amp. Would you like more of this inside my normal reviews? The Hd58x would benefit one but doesn't need an AMP. After seeing the measurements of HD600 and HD650, to claim any large differences seems almost placebo. HD650 They're the most balanced of the 3. It is more resolving and has better detail. But some people really struggle to hear wider soundstages and extra details, if you are one of those people the HD58x may be a better choice. Do note I'll be comparing everything to how close they get to Neutral, and from now on I will be using the Harman Target as neutral. HD58x are close second and I read if you remove the exterior foam they become more open. You will hear the music as it was mixed, not colored in any way. But it would sound awful and I consider it polite to have a good mic. Ersatz-Audio-Upgrade-Kabel für Sennheiser HD650, HD600, HD580, HD660S, HD58X, Massdrop HD6XX Kopfhörer-Verlängerungskabel. Soundstage and Imaging: HD600 have the best sound stage and they are the most "open" of the 3. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It is just more neutral in the mids than the elevated almost shouty 650 mids. To me the 58x is the best Allrounder can of the 3 by a big margin. I got them on the first batch and used it a lot since then so probably the pads have been worn out a little and that's why the highs doesn't bother me anymore. I don't care too much about the audio quality of the mic, I only want to play with the 599 and have a mic. I don't think they are v-shaped, but they are "fun" without a doubt. For comp FPS the HD599 is clearly the best option. "what should I buy according to your opinion? No, the HD58x isn't an HD660s driver. Back then, it felt like it was the revival of the King. Almost like the sound is just there and... that's it. I bought the HD 650 after auditioning the HD660S loan unit, and reluctantly sold off the MrSpeakers Aeon. Maximum rating is 10 for the best sounding of the 3, lower marks are relative to best mark. In general, once again the treble from a quality standpoint is better on the HD650, it has the clearest treble and most detail but its darker. As you can guess from what you have already read in general the HD650 is the clearest and most detailed. The HD58x gains a lot of the HD650s personality but quality-wise stays at the level of the HD599. They are completely different sounding headphones each with it's strengths and weaknesses. You can also kind of only hear what's in front and beside. But the one thing to note, for FPS gaming the HD650 is really never a great option. I want audiophile fun and the 58x deliver! Below a picture of the HD58X without the foam and with green felt modification. The bass do bothers me sometimes, but they're fine generally speaking. Now treble can be fatiguing at first if you come from a darker headphone. I was thinking on the HD58x or HD6xx (HD650), but i saw a lot of reviewers saying that these headphones are definitely not "exciting" headphones by any means. The HD58X is closer to a HD650 in tonal balance (but a bit ‘fresher’) than to the HD600. The HD599, on the other hand, has an overall more forward bass response, with the upper-bass being fairly forward, still not bassy but very warm sounding. While the Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee are very similar to the Sennheiser HD 600, they are slightly better critical listening headphones. This makes sense to me. Hello, my name is LifelongCaboose. At the end, the 3 are really alike, 58X and 6xx specially. Currently unavailable. The HD58x is a bit dry in tonality and lacks sparkle in the treble and a thick, broad sense of bass response of the HD650/HD6xx. Quantity: HD599(Dark) > HD58x(Between) > HD650(Slightly Brightish). They're not that subtle.

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